When fundamentalists attack 2

So there’s a bit of a fuss going on because one fundamentalist has told a bunch of other fundamentalists that they’re going to hell.

There’s a blog post over at Slacktivist on this subject, and it’s essential reading. I’ve wasted half an hour trying to add something, and deleted everything I started because I’m not going to say anything that Fred Clark hasn’t already said better. Go and read it.

Related: When fundamentalists attack!


About jonnyscaramanga

I grew up as a Christian fundamentalist in the UK. Now I am writing a book and blog about what that's like, and what fundamentalists believe.

Posted on October 23, 2013, in Uncategorized. Bookmark the permalink. 8 Comments.

  1. For examples in my own back yard, see http://www.stornowaygazette.co.uk/news/local-headlines/free-presbyterians-condemn-false-evangelism-while-free-church-call-for-more-unity-1-2849325 and http://www.stornowaygazette.co.uk/news/gazette-letters-27-6-13-1-2983680

    A bus visiting state non-denominational schools to distribute materials for use in Religious education classes is maod’s grace. Can’thave that!naged by People with A Mission Ministries (PWAMM) who also distribute Answers in Genesis material. But that’s not that the complaints are about; the local Free Church of Scotland, who are also Answers in Genesis supporters, accuse PWAMM of false Pentecostalism and something called Arminianism. Apparently, the wicked Arminians think salvation depends in part of free will, and not solely on God’s arbitrary gift of grace. How dare they!

  2. John MacArthur think’s that he is God’s chosen in exposing “bad doctrine”. He reminds me of Hank Hanegraaff with his over inflated ego. Their Pentecostal opposites are John Kilpatrick (my former pastor when I lived in Florida, who they horribly criticized) and John Bevere (the guy who used to work for Benny Hinn and is obsessed with pushing submission to authority). The truth of the matter is….THEY ALL SUCK! Sometimes I want to piss and moan about being an atheist living in west Tennessee. Then I remember all the ranting among spiritual authority and the multiple abuses I experienced under guys like them and I’m glad I’m out! I was repeatedly robbed, manipulated and oppressed as a Christian. My worst day as an atheist is still better than my average day as a Christian because religious folks treat their own worse than they treat non believers. Religion is a pyramid scheme. Only the very few at the tiny, pointed top make the big bucks and rule in power by the support of the sick, ignorant and abused at the bottom of the pyramid. Who needs the Devil and his demons when you have Church?

  3. I would also suggest, CHope, that their own infallible doctrine suggests that if Yahweh exists (a big “if”, he is certainly unworthy of worship.

  4. As a Christian, I believe that religious fundamentalists are the worst blasphemers out there.

    I can hardly think of a more atrocious blasphemy than the assertion that God will eternally torture people who happen to have had the wrong beliefs.

    I give my own view on hell and salvation here http://lotharlorraine.wordpress.com/2013/08/30/salvation-by-love-erlosung-durch-die-liebe-unten/ which is widespread among progressive Christians.
    I don’t want to bother you, so please just delete this link if it annoys you.
    But I would be glad to learn your thoughts on that anyway!

    Friendly greetings from Lancaster (I’m a newcomer in the UK…)

  5. Brilliant. Thanks for linking to these. The Patheos piece puts into words perfectly why I can’t even really engage many of my former classmates at MacArthur’s school on this. A) They do not acknowledge that others have Bible verses to back up everything they believe as well (they are blind to the trump card because years of straw man arguments and not really listening have blinded them to the fact that others DO read the Bible) and B) they do not acknowledge that none of us can interpret Scripture with perfection, even if we allow that it’s inerrant, which is not something I ascribe to anymore. Still, even an inerrant book could not lead to inerrant interpretation by humans. It’s simply not possible to come to this book (Bible) without your own experience shaping your view as you read. Thanks for these links. It was a great article.

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